Spell RPG

Este sujeito também dizia odiar a fonte de poder divina porque é ateu

O Jedi não sofre de SMDA não senhor.

A menos que você esteja tentando emular um Jedi como os dos filmes.

Um Jedi-like-Wizard. Só com Sabedoria Alta e um carismazinho mediano faz um estrago muito maior que um com Sabre de Luz.

Lumine Miyavi escreveu:Cara, interpretar eu acho que é algo que varia de grupo pra grupo, e não deveria se interpor numa discussão sobre mecânica, mas vá lá. De resto, eu sei muito bem como é isso...

AKImeru escreveu:Espera.


Parem o tópico.

Tem alguem que prefere o MONGE ANTIGO ao NOVO?


Meu deus.

Tem alguem que prefere o MONGE ANTIGO ao NOVO?

Considere interpretar no sentido que o Elven Paladin comentou logo acima.
Separar o personagem do jogador. Não tava falando de representação teatral ou algo assim.

Mike Mearls escreveu:The Evolution of Play Skill

In the early days of D&D, and to some extent through 3rd Edition, death was a cruel, capricious mistress. The luck of the die determined your starting hit points, and death awaited you at 0. Even if you used the rules for dropping below 0 hit points, such a trip meant an extended time healing up before the next adventure (the 1st Edition DMG required a minimum of one full week of bed rest following such recovery).

With hit points a precious resource, save-or-die traps and monsters lurking throughout the game, and player description of actions serving in place of a skill system, play skill focused on your ability to avoid danger and stack the odds in your favor. A 10-foot pole revealed a pit trap, not a Perception check. When searching a room, you told the DM how you wanted to tear apart a desk to find the gem hidden inside. You couldn’t rely on a Wisdom check or a skill. With few hit points at their disposal, players had to carefully shepherd their spells and use strategy to set up tactically advantageous situations against monsters. Charging ahead, kicking in doors, and pressing on without thought was a good way to die.

In this situation, play skill focused more on your ability to come up with a good plan or figure out the clues that pointed to a hidden trap or treasure. Character power was at the whim of the dice, making the concept of building your character largely irrelevant. Aside from choosing class and race, you had few decisions to make. How you played your character, rather than how you built it, determined your chances of success.

Against this backdrop, the disparity between wizards and fighters make sense. The fighter was akin to playing in easy mode. You had more hit points, better AC, and access to weapons. All things being equal, when it came time to use the rules to determine if you lived or died, the fighter had a leg up at low levels.

A magic-user had the worst hit points and worst AC. A single attack could kill a mage of even up to 3rd level or even higher (the most infamous example being magic-users slain by house cats). A duel between two casters of even moderate level came down to whoever fired off the first high-level, damaging spell. In some ways, playing a magic-user was like opting for hard mode.

When you think about the game in those terms, the disparity starts to make sense. If you played in easy mode, you had a better chance of survival but a lower ceiling of power. In hard mode, you ran the risk of losing a character in exchange for a shot at accessing powerful spells. On top of that, most DMs forced players to roll up 1st level characters after the loss of a PC. Support for creating characters above 1st level appeared in the 1st edition Dungeon Master’s Guide (Appendix P) but was largely aimed at convention play, with the assumption that such characters were not meant for ongoing use in a campaign. When the rest of the group was around 6th level, marching back to 1st level was a real penalty. Not only did you lose your earned experience points, but you also ran the risk of another character death with your weak PC taking on more powerful foes.

Next week, we’ll take a look at how things changed and what that means for the game. I’ll also tie that into how D&D evolves, and what that word actually means for the RPG.

Smaug escreveu:Eu tenho pensado justamente nisso, como é dificil tornar o "mundano" util quando vc tem elementos mágicos (seja magia mesmo ou a força). Vou dar uma de Deicide agora: estou fazendo mudanças no meu sistema caseiro (2x6) procurando deixar os combatentes mais legais, eu reparei que estava comentendo o mesmo erro que a 3.5, conjuradores, sacerdotes e psiquicos faziam horrores na mesa, tendo duzias de opções para cada situação. Os combatentes restava apenas acumular bônus para ataque/dano/manobras (agarrar, desarmar, etc). Pensei então em bolar habilidades unicas para eles e olha... como tah dando trabalho!

A magic-user had the worst hit points and worst AC. A single attack could kill a mage of even up to 3rd level or even higher (the most infamous example being magic-users slain by house cats).

Claro que estou falando do 3.X, em AD&D o guerreiro recebe parceiros e um maldito castelo para fazer tais niveis parecem mais divertidos.