World of Warcraft 4e

[uzury]

Vou ler o arquivo antes de qualquer post Oda. Mas vou fazer em um post mais limpo as modificações que eu fiz nas raças alí em cima.

[AKImeru]

Sem problema, estamos no aguardo.

[Gun_Hazard]

Bom não conheço muito do WoW, mas pelo que ví da Wizards eles tentam equilibrar os bonus de atributos em um Mental e Um Físico, não sei os que saíram no D&D Insider, mas os do Livro básico pelo menos todos eram assim...

[Deicide]

Bom não conheço muito do WoW, mas pelo que ví da Wizards eles tentam equilibrar os bonus de atributos em um Mental e Um Físico, não sei os que saíram no D&D Insider, mas os do Livro básico pelo menos todos eram assim...

Há uma exceção no PHB: Tieflings são +2 Int, +2 Car.
No Monster Manual tem várias raças com ambos os bônus em Atributos físicos ou mentais.

[WillDice]

A idéia não é um físico e um mental; e sim dois que aumentem duas Defesas diferentes.

Tanto que a única exceção no PHB, o Eladrin (que tem Des +2, Int +2, o que basicamente significa Ref +1) recebe Will +1 para ficar equivalente.
(as outras que precisariam desse recurso seriam For +2 Cons +2, e Sab +2 Car +2)

[Torneco]

O Minotauro não tem um recurso desses. Ele ganha +2 em For e Cons, mas não ganha nenhum bônus em outra defesa.

[_Virtual_Adept_]

Talvez por isso utilizar monstros como raças jogáveis seja a critério do DM, Torneco.

[Nibelung]

É, mas os warforgeds forjados bélicos recebem bônus em Força e Constituição, e +1 de Vontade. Teoricamente, pra compensar qualquer raça com bônus na mesma defesa, eles tem que ter um bônus racial em outra defesa.

Minotauros são estranhos mesmo. Antes isso se equivalia pelo Oversized, mas removeram numa Dragon, e por consequência (sem trema), no Compendium. Agora eles são uma raça mecanicamente inferior.

[_Virtual_Adept_]

Não vou remover o oversized dos meus jogos, então.

Ah, uma dúvida: não existe mais bônus/penalidade em Ataque e CA por causa de tamanho, certo?

[Nibelung]

não existe mais bônus/penalidade em Ataque e CA por causa de tamanho, certo?

Não. E eu agradeço por isso o tempo todo.

[cavaleiromorto]

Agora o Goring Charge acerta mais fácil, mudou de +2 para +4, e lógicamente temos a adição do talentinho que todo minotauro deseja:

Opportunity Gore [Minotaur]
Prerequisites: Minotaur, goring charge racial power
Benefit: Whenever you make an opportunity attack, instead of making the usual melee basic attack, you can use your goring charge racial power without expending it, even if you have used it this encounter. When you do so, you ignore the power's requirement and action type, and your target is the creature that triggered the opportunity attack.

E temos estes dois para complemento:

Goring Shove [Minotaur]
Prerequisites: Strength 15, minotaur, goring charge racial power
Benefit: When you hit with goring charge, you can also push the target 1 square.

Greathorn [Minotaur]
Prerequisites: Minotaur, goring charge racial power
Benefit: The damage dice from your goring charge attack increases from d6s to d8s.

Claro que perder Oversized foi um duro golpe para os minos :(, mas vejo muita utilidade em um bárbaro minotauro

[AKImeru]

Podemos voltar a discussão de WoW 4e por favor? Não quero ser chato mas é que eu achei que estavamos finalmente chegando em algum lugar com isso.

[uzury]

Stormwind Human

Stormwind Human (http://www.wowwiki.com/Stormwind_human)
The noble Stormwind humans are a proud, tenacious race. They bravely fought the orcish Horde for generations as the patrons of the Grand Alliance.
Ability Scores: +2 Constitution, +2 Wisdom
Size: Medium
Speed: 6 squares
Vision: Normal
Languages: Common, choice of one other
Skill Bonuses: +2 Perception, +2 Diplomacy.
Human Spirit: When you spend an action point you can re-use an Encounter Power instead the simple attack.
Every Man for Himself: You can use Every Man for Himself as a daily power.

Every Man for Himself | Stormwind Human Racial Power
Focus your will and mind to remove any control over your body.
Daily
Immediate Interrupt Personal
Trigger: When you lose the control of your character (sleep, fear and any kind of mind control)
Effect: If you can make a save to end the effect, make a saving throw against the effect. If the effect doesn’t have a save to end, make a saving throw with -2 penalty.

Ironforge Dwarf

Ironforge Dwarf (http://www.wowwiki.com/Ironforge_dwarf)
The dwarves of Ironforge are a proud, stern and determined people with streaks of kindness hidden under the gruff exteriors of their sturdy frames.
Ability Scores: +2 Constitution, +2 Wisdom
Size: Medium
Speed: 5 squares
Vision: Low-light
Languages: Common, Dwarven
Skill Bonuses: +2 Dungeoneering, +2 Endurance
Stand Your Ground: When an effect forces you to move—through a pull, a push, or a slide—you can move 1 square less than the effect specifies. This means an effect that normally pulls, pushes, or slides a target 1 square does not force you to move unless you want to.
In addition, when an attack would knock you prone, you can immediately make a saving throw to avoid falling prone.
Encumbered Speed: You move at your normal speed even when it would normally be reduced by armor or a heavy load. Other effects that limit speed (such as difficult terrain or magical effects) affect you normally.
Stoneform: You can use Stoneform as a daily power.

Stoneform | Ironforge Dwarf Racial Power
Stone does not bleed, tremble, sicken, or quaver.
Daily
Minor Action Personal
Effect: When you active this power you gain Resistance 3 to all damage (increase to 5 at 10th level, 7 at 20th level, and 10 at 30th level) for 1 + Con Modifier (minimum 1) round, and can make a saving throw against all existing damage-over-time effects, you become immune to any ongoing effect for the duration of the power.

Night Elf

Night Elf (http://www.wowwiki.com/Night_elf)
Their ancient heritage has shaped them into a devoted warrior race, with a reverence for nature and animistic mystical forces.
Ability Scores: +2 Dexterity, +2 Wisdom
Size: Medium
Speed: 7 squares
Vision: Low-light
Languages: Common, Darnassian
Skill Bonuses: +2 Nature, +2 Stealth
Wisp Spirit: Rolling a 15 or above is equivalent to rolling a 20 for the purposes of Death Saving Throws.
Shadowmeld: You can use Shadowmeld as an encounter power.

Shadowmeld | Night Elf Racial Power
The forests of Teldrassil are not so empty as they appear. Your body becomes one with the shadows.
Encounter
Minor Action Personal
Effect: You immediately gain invisibility. Moving, attacking, taking damage, or any other action will end this effect.

Gnome

Gnome (http://www.wowwiki.com/Gnome)
They are a diminutive, wiry race of tinkers who live underground.
Ability Scores: +2 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence
Size: Small
Speed: 6 squares
Vision: Normal
Languages: Common, Gnomish
Skill Bonuses: +2 Acrobatics, +2 Thievery
Escape Artist: You can make an extra save throw against immobilized, prone, slowed, restrained effects (if possible) at the beginning of your turn.
Expansive Mind: At 1st, 11th, 21th level choose one extra power of your current level or lower level to learn. This feature doesn’t change the number of daily attacks you can prepare each day.

Exodar Draenei

Exodar Draenei (http://www.wowwiki.com/Exodar_draenei)
They were extremely intelligent and had a natural affinity for magic in all of its forms.
Ability Scores: +2 Strength, +2 Intelligence
Size: Medium
Speed: 6 squares
Vision: Normal
Languages: Common, Draenei
Skill Bonuses: +2 Arcana, +2 Insight
Heroic Presence: Gives +1 to Attack Rolls to any ally at 3 squares from you.
Gift of the Naaru: You can use Gift of the Naaru as a daily power.

Gift of the Naaru | Exodar Draenei Racial Power
A blue power sigil appears on your forehead, healing you or your allies.
Daily ✦ Healing
Standard Action Close burst 3
Target: You or Your ally
Effect: Pick any one ally in burst range. You may choose yourself. That ally regains the same amount of hit points as if they had just spent a healing surge, though they do not use up a healing surge.

Durotar Orc

Durotar Orc (http://www.wowwiki.com/Durotar_orc)
They are frightening, wielding axes and hammers as well as massive fists the size of a small child.
Ability Scores: +2 Strength, +2 Constitution
Size: Medium
Speed: 6 squares
Vision: Normal
Languages: Common, Orcish
Skill Bonuses: +2 Athletics, +2 Endurance
Hardiness: You gain a +1 racial bonus to your Fortitude defense.
Blood Fury: Once per encounter when you are bloodied, you can spend a Healing Surge to gain +2 to Damage Rolls, instead to receive the heal, (+4 at 11th level, +8 at 21st level) while you’re bloodied.

Forsaken Undead

Forsaken Undead (http://www.wowwiki.com/Forsaken)
Undead humans and elves freed from the Lich King’s control, the Forsaken are a strange and dark force.
Ability Scores: +2 Constitution +2 Charisma
Size: Medium
Speed: 6 squares
Vision: Low-light
Languages: Common, Gutterspeak
Skill Bonuses: +2 Endurance, +2 Arcana
Living Construct: As a living construct, you have the following traits:
— You gain a +2 bonus to saving throws against ongoing damage.
— You don’t need to eat, drink, or breathe, but this doesn’t render you immune to any effect.
— You need only 4 hours to benefit from an extended rest.
Cannibalize: Once per encounter you can spend a full-round to eat a dead body (with flesh) and use a Healing Surge. Cannibalize provokes Opportunity Attacks.
Will of the Forsaken: You can use Will of the Forsaken as a daily power.

Will of the Forsaken | Forsaken Undead Racial Power
Drawing on your resolve, you cast off certain afflictions.
Daily
Immediate Interrupt Personal
Trigger: When you are affected by a Stun, Daze, or Domination Effect
Effect: Make an immediate Saving Throw against each Stun, Daze, or Domination effect currently on you.

Tauren

Tauren (http://www.wowwiki.com/Tauren)
The tauren are a race of shamans, hunters, and warriors who long ago developed a complex culture and system of living without the aid of stonework, steel or conquest.
Ability Scores: +2 Strength, +2 Wisdom
Size: Medium
Speed: 6 squares
Vision: Normal
Languages: Common, Taura-he
Skill Bonuses: +2 Nature, +2 Insight
Endurance: You gain a +2 racial bonus to your Hit Point at 1st, 11th and 21st levels.
Oversized: You receive +1 on your damage rolls with Two-handed Weapons.
Warstomp: You can use Warstomp as a daily power.

Warstomp | Tauren Racial Power
You stomp one of your hooves into the ground, stunning nearby enemies.
Daily
Standart Action Close Burst 1
Target: All creatures in the burst
Attack: Strength vs. Fortitude
Effect: Those affected are Stunned (save ends).

Jungle Troll

Jungle Troll (http://www.wowwiki.com/Darkspear_tribe)
They are superstitious creatures who revel in the hunt and the rigors of personal combat.
Ability Scores: +2 Dexterity, +2 Constitution
Size: Medium
Speed: 6 squares
Vision: Normal
Languages: Common, Zandali
Skill Bonuses: +2 Acrobatics, +2 Nature
Regeneration: Your healing surge value is equal to one-quarter of your maximum hit points +2.
Da Voodoo Shuffle: You can make an extra save throw against immobilized, restrained effects (if possible) at the beginning of your turn.
Berserking: You can use Berserking as a daily power.

Beserking | Jungle Troll Racial Power
Your rage is released once your blood has been spilled upon the ground. Attacking or Casting faster.
Daily
Imediate Action Personal
Special: You must be bloodied to use this power.
Effect: You can use a minor or move action or shift as immediate action. Until the end of you next turn you can make a Simple Attack or Add again your attribute modifier to one Spell damage as a minor action (this action can’t be accelerated).

Blood Elf

Blood Elf (http://www.wowwiki.com/Blood_elf_(playable) )
They have slim athletic bodies, long pointy ears, acute senses and keen sight in the darkness, and a strange taste for fel magic.
Ability Scores: +2 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence
Size: Medium
Speed: 6 squares
Vision: Low-light
Languages: Common, Thalassian
Skill Bonuses: +2 Arcana, +2 History
High Elf Education: You gain training in one additional skill.
Trance: Rather than sleep, Blood Elf enters a meditative state known as trance. You need to spend 4 hours in his state to gain the same benefits other races gain from taking a 6-hour extended rest. While in a trance, you are fully aware of your surroundings and notice approaching enemies and other events as normal.
Arcane Torrent: You can use Arcane Torrent as a daily power.

Arcane Torrent | Blood Elf Racial Power
Daily
Minor Action Close burst 5
Target: One creature
Attack: Intelligence, Charisma or Dexterity VS Will
Effect: You lock one encounter power, if the target doesn’t have an available encounter power than an at-will power (save ends), you can use a Healing Surge.
Special: When you create your character, choose Intelligence, Charisma or Dexterity as the ability score you use when making attack rolls with this power.

[_Virtual_Adept_]

É impressão minha ou as raças de World of Warcraft são um tanto... overpowered?

[WillDice]

Gostei. Muito bom. Só algumas observações:

Heroic Presence: Gives +1 to Attack Rolls to any ally at 3 squares from you.
Gift of the Naaru: You can use Gift of the Naaru as an encounter power.

Achei uma combinação um tanto forte. +1 nas jogadas de ataque, e um poder que é praticamente um second wind extra para qualquer aliado, como minor action?

A habilidade racial dos anões "core", de usar Second Wind como minor, já é considerada forte. Ter um "second wind" minor adicional, que pode ser usado em aliados, eu acho muito.
Deixe como ação padrão.

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Endurance: You gain a +2 racial bonus to your Hit Point at 1st, 11th and 21st levels.

Gostei, ficou bom assim.

Mas podia ser também como a habilidade dos Dragonborn, dando bônus no valor das surges. Mas aí entra em conflito com o Troll, abaixo...

Oversized: You can use weapons of your size or one size larger than you as if they were your size.

Francamente, não gosto disso para raça de jogador.

Sugestão: fazer duas armas superiores de duas mãos bem fortes (tauren totem e tauren halberd), e dar proficiência racial com elas. Daí ele teria suas "armas de gente grande", sem que isso permitisse ele usar espadas de duas mãos tamanho-ogro.

Outra opção é simplesmente dar +1 no dano com armas de duas mãos (como se fossem de uma mão versáteis).

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Languages: Common, Orcish Zandali

Regeneration: You gain +2 healing value.

O que isso significa?
Seria +2 no valor curado com um Healing Surge? (algo como o racial dos dragonborn que já citei)